Wasn't sure where to post this as theres no members car section? But here is Brian's car, he's new to the forum but i was chatting to him on the phone earlier and thought i would post the photo up
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Re: Brian's 355 replica MR2 12 Years, 7 Months ago
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Thanks 4 putting this on the site. Its my first taste of an MR2, and boy am I impressed. The mechanics are so good, messing around with the cosmetic appearance and enjoying driving it, is what its about. Practical too. Whats wierd is the effect it has on people, they love it, and so do I. Its a tribute to great style and design from the prancing horse people, coupled with solid engineering from the land of the rising sun. I see comments on various threads knocking these, but I also detect a hint of jealousy. If I wanted to burn money, maybe I'd get a real one, but right now I have the last laugh. I thoroughly recommend them to anyone thinking of getting one, there are plenty ready built, on the market
serious question-when people talk to you about the car do you keep pretending it's a ferrari or come clean and tell them it's a 20 year(ish) old toyota?
Good question. If they ask, I tell 'em its an MR2 beneath, otherwise I don't say anything at all, and let them soak up the brand (which frankly is a bit over-exposed at the moment, you can probably by a Ferrari toaster, and virtually anything with the logo on it, even a Fiat 500). I could stretch to the genuine F355, but this makes more sense in many ways. Looking forward to experimenting with 400 bhp lump in the near future.
If you want to stick with the 4cyl (lighter option) - I will have a 3sgte for sale soon. But to do it properly you might be better off getting a whole rear clip so that you get all of the upgraded bits and pieces that go along with it.
AFAIK, the 2GR is actually lighter. This is from a MR2 wiki
"Weight/Balance: The 3vz-fe is heaviest V6 motor option, weighing in at 469 lbs. Hot Chili weighed his mr2 before and after his swap (he had a 3s-ge to 3vz-fe) and he gained 67 lbs and his front rear balance changed by .5%. A 3vz-fe with S-54 will weigh less than a turbo car because of the S-54 weighing about 50 lbs less than the E series turbo tranny. For comparison the 1mz-fe weighs 401 lbs and 2gr weighs 369 lbs, the 3s-gte without any intercooler/turbo weighs 421 lbs. I have not noticed the extra weight, because I lightened the car while doing my swap by deleting all my a/c components which saved about 40 lbs, so I only gained about 27 lbs which to me is barely noticeable. "
Back on Topic - the 2GR is a much costlier option and with scarcity of second hand 2GR's over here, you need to get on a Woodsport group buy from the US.
Absolute bargain if you can pick up Quandrys engine, which has been dyno proven at over 305hp already If you really want 400, then I'd not feel safe myself pushing 400hp on a block with stock internals (although it has been done). But, if you do want to go down rebuild route with forged internals, then Quandry's block is a great starting point.
What rev is your car Brian - if it's same as Quandry's, then I'm pretty sure it'll make wiring plug and play (it does on the rev3 conversion anyway).
This 2GR sound really got me excited:
Its all about BHP per ton, and agreed on the -ve impact of the 3vz-fe
Being in Ireland is a pain in the butt for sourcing standard european parts, let along US stuff (although I'm on ebay all the time, forget it trying thu the motor trade in IE.
I was looking at the Woodsport demo reel on Youtube and they have done some truly beautiful work.
Having said that, a turbo kit will be much easier and cheaper to achieve much more power. Unless you go truly insane on the v6 and then you might as well have bought a ferrari... I guess if you blueprinted a v6 and fitted a flywheel made of rice paper, then maybe the sound of the v6 at 10,000rpm might fit in with your Ferrari kit.
" If you're worried about lag then you're either in the wrong gear or the wrong car "
Quandry wrote: I was looking at the Woodsport demo reel on Youtube and they have done some truly beautiful work.
Having said that, a turbo kit will be much easier and cheaper to achieve much more power. Unless you go truly insane on the v6 and then you might as well have bought a ferrari... I guess if you blueprinted a v6 and fitted a flywheel made of rice paper, then maybe the sound of the v6 at 10,000rpm might fit in with your Ferrari kit.
" If you're worried about lag then you're either in the wrong gear or the wrong car "
But, even though it is a FE engine, displacement does play a big enough part in real life driving.
I think I priced the 2GR (coming from the US) and Woodsport performing the conversion - all in at 5,500 euros. That's 286hp and that'll be with the 2GR not even trying. Think an Aussie company has a built 800hp 2GR Another 1,500-2000 euros for s/c kit ? So, about 7,500 euros for 400hp.
I suppose I was coming from the angle of a power figure I wanted - about 400-420fwhp. If you want a reliable 3s-gte, best to get forged build ? Forged build, ECU, uprated fuel system, uprated turbo, uprated cooling - quite quickly going to get near 6,000+ euros ?
I just think if a 3.5L supercharged MR2 running 400hp was to go up against a 3s-gte running 400hp, the 2GR should win ?
Maybe on the 1/4 mile, a 3s-gte might have anti-lag etc and give the 2GR a run or beat it. But I think in real life, the any gear acceleration from the bigger engine will win out? Sometimes I drive in gear for optimum acceleration but a lot of time, I might be driving "lazy" and if a "challenge was to happen", you could get caught napping. Fair enough, you will catch them and get past when the turbo gives you that huge top end. But its nice to be in front from the get-go
I'm not putting down the 3s-gte - amazing base for big power.
I'm sure the 2GR is sounding great to me now because I've no mods done to my 3s-gte. But if I had a 400hp 3s-gte, I might not be wanting a 2GR so much
Just gotta get the ST205cc in, get leakdown test done to make sure engine is healthy and then just up the boost to about 1.2bar and see what power its making then.
If I happen to come across 5,500 euros, I'll get the 2GR and we'll test out both the 2GR and the 3S-GTE
Yep, very handy stuff! THis is a good website/forum
The car is getting better every week, love it. My only issue is reliability- with the exciting potential engine swaps, have had some quick cars in the past, eg a ten min drive to the office can handle anything (overheating etc- even if it means dirt on the white shirt and dirty fingernails at business meetings), at present my modifed car is ok for 4 hr+ drives on shite roads. the goods news is its not my main car, so "work in progress" is fine.
I've not been on here for a while. Made good progress with the 3VZ-FE Camry V6, which I will be putting in the car the first week of Nov 2011, here are some pics of the engine as it is now:
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and the Magnex stainless rear box together with the stainless EMS Y and B pipes: