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Re:Rebuild options for 400hp engine 10 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 314
How are you getting on Dan- any luck?
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#23605
Re:Rebuild options for 400hp engine 10 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 59
Well the car has been lying in Paul Wrays yard since this thread was started as between weather and work I've not had a chance to pick it up. Anyway, Paul rang me yesterday saying that he had time to get to work on the car and he's fixed the cambelt, done a leak down test and it's running 100% again! €170 all in for the replacement belt and labour which I thought was very good.

As for the rebuild I'm still planning on going ahead with it. My friend with the 4WD 3SGTE Corolla has offered me a standard 3SGTE engine for free as he alreay has his built engine. I'm thinking I can get the spare engine rebuilt slowly in my own time and just drop the old one and lift in the new one when ready. The engine is from a ST185 Celica so should go in my Rev2 without too many problems I think?
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#23607
Re:Rebuild options for 400hp engine 10 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 314
Glad to hear you're up and running again - here's a karma click for luck

€170 is a good deal - keep that guy!
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#23609
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Yea I think I'll go to him for work from now on. He really knows his stuff too. You should see his yard! He has Imprezas, Evos, 3000GT's, RX7 and RX8's (he's putting a Supra Twin Turbo engine in the RX8!), E30 M3, Skylines, etc. His own Skyline is putting out nearly 1000bhp! It's an absolute animal!
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#23612
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Sounds deadly. Maybe get a pic/write up together like what Ozzy did for Joe in Tuam?
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#23613
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Yea I'll take some pics whenever I get a chance to collect the car. Hopefully the snow holds off!
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#23623
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Got a bit of good news today from the bank. Was approved for a smaller loan! It's not enough for the full rebuild but it's enough to get the bottom end forged. Nice one!
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#23626
Re:Rebuild options for 400hp engine 10 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 140
Good to hear that you can still go ahead with your build. The bottom end of the engine is the main part to upgrade. Once you have this done, you have the base to build upon a good engine. The original head is not bad, so don't worry about not upgrading that at the same time.
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Cheers Martin. Yea I've already sourced ACL full bearing kit, Cometic Head and Full top end gasket kit and CP 86.5mm forged pistons for €675 including delivery. That should leave me enough for the tools I need along with machine work. I'll need at least €600 of the €2k for a runabout too and the tax, NCT, etc. I'll have to wait until either my grant comes in next year or my tax refund comes in to get the turbo kit. But I don't mind waiting for it. As long as it gets done I'll be happy!
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Good stuff Dan, all the best for the build.
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#23687
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Cheers. Went down today to sign all the forms! So should have the money in the bank by tomorrow morning. Straight to eBay for me!
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How long are you planning on keeping the 2 for?
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At this stage forever! I'll get nothing for it now anyway compared to what I value it as. All my mates have told me that I'd be stupid to sell it as it's a big part of my life at this stage. It's been my only form of transport for 4 years! Now I'm going to rebuild it and use it during the summer months only. Putting him out to stud if you will
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#23898
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Right mind is made up on CP pistons and ACL bearings from Real Street Performance in the States. €565 delivered.

CP 86.5mm pistons

ACL Full Race Bearing kit

Full top and bottom end gasket kit including MLS head gasket from The Gasket Shop on eBay.

Bottom end gasket set - €42

Head and top end gasket set - €75

Postage for the above is €15.

The guy I'm getting the spare engine from is trying his hardest to convince me to get a Rev 3 head but it's additional cost I don't know I need. I've not got the money to do much head work at the moment anyway. My plan at the moment is to get the bottom end fully built and ready to accept anything I throw at it down the line. This way I can run the engine in while I save up for the turbo/ECU/clutch/fuelling/etc.

For you guys that have gone down this route before what advice would you have? I'm going to build the spare Rev2 motor in the garage in my spare time but I'll be getting the machine work done by Smith Engineering. They use torque plates when they do engine work so that's a bonus.
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#23899
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Rev 3 steel headgasket will do fine.

I have one you can have for postage that I never used.

BTW, you can get a FULL engine gasket set from toyota for £109
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Cheers for the generous offer Mark. I'll try and see if I can get the full gasket set if thats the case. I take it if I go for the full Toyota gasket set for the Rev2 it will come with the composite head gasket? If that's the case I might have that Rev3 head gasket off you. If you're not far away I could collect and get you a pint/coffee or whatever. I'm in Donegal myself, Letterkenny most of the time.
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Right bit of an update now. Just after placing the order for my Wiseco pistons and ACL bearings from RealStreetPerformance in the States. They're a great company to deal with so far. Email correspondence has been very quick. Replies within minutes some times. I've done a bit of research into them and the overall opinions are great! The pistons and bearings cost €545 delivered which would have been cheaper if PayPal didn't use a stupid exchange rate. Oh well, its done now. Hardest part was clicking confirm! Didn't want to spend the money

Going to head up to Derry in a week or 2 and get the bearing kit as well. Alanv is giving me a spare Rev2 engine to work on and hopefully I'll be able to get the Rev3 head and everything else needed to convert from mr.2 on here. After that I'll get the blocks swapped over and I think I'll put on my GT2860RS for the time being. I'll get the engine management sorted then and have it mapped as it is. I'll have to save a good bit of money for the bigger turbo and fuelling setup though. Long process this modifying lark!
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#24534
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Good stuff Dan! I hate parting with cash too but the seeing the car evolve is awesome. KC+1 for you

p.s. I don't think i'll be at the Mayo meet as i'm in the process of modifying the rails of the original seats to sick onto the bucket seats and have no tax. Also, i'm flat out at work which is good. Want to get this spot on for obvious reasons.
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#24536
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Yea I know what you mean. I'm out of tax now a few days so have to get that sorted and the NCT is next Saturday as well. Hopefully I'll have all my tickets by the time the meet comes around anyway! It is good seeing the project take shape as well. I'll be even better when I get the engine back to my place and get it stripped down reading for machining!
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#24537
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Oh and the part number for the full gasket set for Rev2 engines is 04111-74400 in case anyone needs it.
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#24538
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Fair play to ya anyway dude. 400 horses is serious going. I'm just hoping to get mine to the 300 mark within the next two months.
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#27080
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Went to the TOC rolling road day last weekend and here's the results.


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You can see there's quite a bad misfire. I put this down to the wrong plugs. Will be changing them over to colder grade NGK's. Was also over fuelling massively! Martin Tracey was the guy doing the dyno day. He commented on the few issues but also said that it was boosting very well. 258bhp and 370Nm torque isn't bad for a 19 year old engine! Was running at 1Bar for the run with GReddy side mount, Blitz filter, decat and exhaust.

Happy with the platform I have for the rebuild. Looks like a strong engine!
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Good results Dan, over fuelling is Toyota ECU standard. Have you got a AFR graph.
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No didn't get an AFR printout. Apologies for the state of the printout in the above as well haha! It was lying on our coffee table all week and has been used as a coaster it would seem! Pics are useless as well from my iPhone.

I'll be getting a Power FC at some point and I'll be looking into mapping it myself before I get someone to set it up properly for me. I really just want it so I can sort the fuelling and for when I'm breaking in my rebuild. Don't want to pay for 2 mapping sessions really.
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The overfuelling is to prevent damage from knock, good results all the same.
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Yea I know that. With a good tune it can be dialed out though. Still I'm happy with over fuelling in the mean time. It's like money coming out both exits of the exhaust the way petrol is at the minute though haha!

I'll be up to collect that water pump soon as I can as well Martin. Just need to get sorted from work first.
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#27095
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Great stuff Dan. Goes to show you can never keep a good MR2 down!!

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#29991
Re: Rebuild options for 400hp engine 10 Years, 7 Months ago Karma: 59
Right, the MR2 is officially off the road! It's been ages but it's finally tucked up in the garage ready for a tear down. I'll give you a shout tomorrow Geoff about the clutch. I was going to get out a small loan so I could get everything I need and just jump in but I'm thinking that just saving for the parts I need will be wiser in the long run. No point putting myself into debt for 3 years if I can get all the parts I need bought and paid for within a year.

So this thread is going to take a while

Question now is where to start?

I'm going to replace everything I can but the engine is going to be the last thing I tackle because of the cost. I've got the parts I posted up a while back but still need a turbo kit, possible head work, ECU and fuelling off the top of my head along with the gaskets, etc.

I was thinking about stripping down the interior and doing something different with it in the mean time. Me and Martin were talking a while back about moving the heater controls in to the glove box but I'm not sure how to go about it. I'd say I'll just take it out and examine how it works. From there I'll figure out if it can be done and if so I'll post up a how to.

I'm still undecided about the loan if I'm honest. I can easily meet the payments for the amount I need but I don't know if it's worth it? If I get the loan I can have it finished for JAE in September but if I leave it I'll not have her back on the road until next year at the earliest. That's a long time!
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#29992
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Only you can decide about the loan Dan. You have a daily driver so I think you would be wiser to save for the parts.

Leave the EMS untill last, they usually have updates once a year. So there is no point in having it laid about and having to pay extra to update it when it's time to install the unit.

If you want a suggestion on starting the job, then why not tackle the fuel pump upgrade ?
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I've already got a Walbro 255 l/h pump in there but I might upgrade to dual Walbros.
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