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#73069
brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
hi all..just wondering what power you should be putting out on a rev 3 turbo before you start upgrading brakes.cheers
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#73075
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 88
Personally I would upgrade them at the start .... just put better brake pads
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#73077
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 57
I'd agree with japohara, set of uprated pads will make a difference and if your budget allows, a set of braided lines and some good quality brake fluid will transform the braking.
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#73085
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
have the car signed off the road as I'm doing afew bits..have braided brake lines all round..was thinking of getting grooved discs and yellow stuffed pads before I put it back on the road.anyone have?
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#73087
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 74
I found the cold bite on Yellowstuff very poor on the road on my mk2. They were great on the track though, but I wouldn't recommend them for the road.
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#73097
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 133
I have used Yellowstuff brake pads and have to agree with Tsporter. They didn't give me confidence from cold.

Go for Redstuff they are great from cold for road and some track use. Far better than Toyota pads.
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#73099
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
o really..hmm..I helped my friend fit yellow and them discs to a k20 civic..he did say alright that when they warmed up,they were good..so the red stuff is better for road?what grade brake fluid should I use.may aswell change it whileI'm there and do yee think it would make much of a difference if I changed the discs for swirl ones?
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#73101
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 133
Years ago I did the same as you are doing now. I spent a small fortune on discs, pads, braided brake lines and fluid.

I bought a brand called Black Diamond for front and rear. They were drilled and grooved and quite expensive. I'm sure you could get some other brand that is cheaper and just as good. Just do some research on the net as some cheapo stuff can crack.

I was most impressed by the Redstuff as I was able to brake later than with the other brands that I had tried.

I don't have ABS on my MR2 so I can't say for sure if you can use the same fluids, but DOT.4 or 5.1 will be good. The higher the number the more moister it can absorb so if you are not going to track a lot then DOT.4 should be good enough.

Also seeing as you are changing a few things, have you considered a braided clutch line ?
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#73103
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
ya I wouldn't go fit drilled and grooved cus in heard of them cracking..think I have dot 4 somewhere..replaced the clutch last week for a stage 1 excedy and delighted with it and replaced the gear oil with the mt90 with new clutch fluid plus a blitz dcat I got of the site..just wonder would the swirl discs make much of a difference?I put in a blitz induction kit 2 that sounds abit crazy..will have to put up a video of it
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#73105
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 133
I can't say that I have read about swirl discs.

I had a Blitz SUS kit on my rev2, it does make some good noises.
I will sell it when I get my MR2 back on the road.

Because I have changed to a GT3082R turbo I am installing a larger K&N cone filter. I am going to make a heat shield for it, maybe out of carbon fiber if/when I get some cash to do it.
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#73107
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
ya I wouldn't go fit drilled and grooved cus in heard of them cracking..think I have dot 4 somewhere..replaced the clutch last week for a stage 1 excedy and delighted with it and replaced the gear oil with the mt90 with new clutch fluid plus a blitz dcat I got of the site..just wonder would the swirl discs make much of a difference?I put in a blitz induction kit 2 that sounds abit crazy..will have to put up a video of it
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#73109
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
ya that's same filter..gunna make some sort of sheild aswell cus there does be nice heat in that engine bay..i done some other bits a while back 2..you'll be putting out some power id say?
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#73111
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 133
With the JUN 2.2 stroker and the GT3082R I'm hoping to go over the 400bhp mark.

Also got KSport 8 pots on the front and Wilwood 4 pots on the rear.
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#73113
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
ya I wouldn't go fit drilled and grooved cus in heard of them cracking..think I have dot 4 somewhere..replaced the clutch last week for a stage 1 excedy and delighted with it and replaced the gear oil with the mt90 with new clutch fluid plus a blitz dcat I got of the site..just wonder would the swirl discs make much of a difference?I put in a blitz induction kit 2 that sounds abit crazy..will have to put up a video of it
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#73115
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
sorry on the phone and its having a fit..it's getting all exited:-)..nice.I read some of that thread alright..that going for track or road?you'll be using racing harnesses for them brakes.ha
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#73117
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 133
Nearly all road use, butI hope to do an odd track day.

I already have a harness bar, no harnesses yet though.
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#73119
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 57
I have yellowstuff pads on my car and never had any issues, even from cold. But I wouldn't go straight into spirited driving anyway so they would have plenty of time to warm up I suppose.

Marty if you don't mind me asking, would your new brake set up effect the braking bias on the car. Something I've looked into in the past but too many stories put me off as people say it can be tricky to dial it in correctly as alot of braking is done by the back wheels on the mr2. Just being curious here!

Also... jun stroker kit! Nice!
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#73125
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 74
Bommie wrote:
I have yellowstuff pads on my car and never had any issues, even from cold. But I wouldn't go straight into spirited driving anyway so they would have plenty of time to warm up I suppose.
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It's not really about spirited driving, with road pads I don't want something that has to warm up. I want to be able to tip along and do say 20 miles without touching the brakes, and if I suddenly need them they bite straight away. Yellows on my mk2 didn't do that.

I have them on my mk1 though and they are like a different pad. They have great cold bite, maybe it's the weight.
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#73129
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 133
The KSport brakes were bought as a kit designed for the MR2 as were the Wilwoods.

The Wilwoods were installed on the MR2 quite a few years ago and I never had any braking issues with them. They came with Wilwood brand pads.

I have yet to install the KSport kit as my MR2 project has been on hold for a long time now. Though I am expecting them to work well if KSport are selling them as a kit for the MR2.

If I find any issues then I will have to adjust the front/rear bias.

By the way, the KSports came with Ferodo 2500 pads which are supposed to work well on the road.

Going back to the Yellowstuff, I just didn't feel they suited my style of braking from cold.

If I am not happy with the Ferodos then I will definitely be using Redstuff pads again.

I was originally going to buy the HKS stroker kit as it was cheaper, but it was not available.

The JUN kit came with some nice Cosworth pistons that JUN must have had Cosworth make for them.
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#73135
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 57
@ Tsporter, Glad we cleared that up for Mike

Amazing how different driving styles can lead to different reviews of the same product. It's why it's so bloody difficult to make my mind up when buying parts for the car! I gues you can never really know what works for you until you try a product out for yourself

@ Marty, that will be a seriously sweet set up when done. I've heard good things about those 2500 pads. Might be another option for Mike even using standard discs/callipers with the braided hoses
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#73161
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
gets complicated quick.ha..might just go with what I'm looking at which is the grooves discs and ebc red stuffed pads from brake depot..ya really wanna try each yourself as people have different opinions on the matter..all good though.cheers for the comments lads..and marty you may hurry up with that build:-)
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#73163
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 5
gets complicated quick.ha..might just go with what I'm looking at which is the grooves discs and ebc red stuffed pads from brake depot..ya really wanna try each yourself as people have different opinions on the matter..all good though.cheers for the comments lads..and marty you may hurry up with that build:-)
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#73165
Re: brakes 2 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 57
I'm sure you can't go too far wrong mike. Let us know how you get on so we can confuse the next person who asks by adding another opinion
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#73167
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haha.will do:-)
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#73777
Re: brakes 2 Years ago Karma: 88
Personally I would upgrade them at the start .... just put better brake pads
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#73779
Re: brakes 2 Years ago Karma: 25
Japohara wrote:
Personally I would upgrade them at the start .... just put better brake pads

I agree here, new standard discs and good pads (I say yes to Yellowstuff) with your braided lines and fresh fluid will be good for fast road use.
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#73787
Re: brakes 2 Years ago Karma: 5
ya.gunna Get red stuffed and grooved discs..see what I think of them.I hadn't had the car on the road properly since iv brought the power up so it will be going back on the road with upgraded brakes..
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Re: brakes 2 Years ago Karma: 5
ya.gunna Get red stuffed and grooved discs..see what I think of them.I hadn't had the car on the road properly since iv brought the power up so it will be going back on the road with upgraded brakes..
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#73793
Re: brakes 2 Years ago Karma: 27
Make sure all your sliders are working properly or all your work will be in vain.

Best of tluck with the Mod.

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#73795
Re: brakes 2 Years ago Karma: 5
should be all good..I already reconditioned front callipers ..might do the back 2 while I'm there..gunna order these this evening..had my friends k20 over the week and he has yellow stuffe pads.found them good but the bite wasn't as good when they were cold compared to when there hot..so gunna go red and report back.cheers for comments lads
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