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#12078
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 313
Thanks Tim,

Probably the brass ones would be fine if mine had been greased, I'll keep them aside for when the bearings pack it in then.

One other thing I noticed is that the shift linkage/rod/fork whatever that is attached to the gearbox had a lot of play and squeeking. Out of interest, do you know if the E153 from Rev 3,4,5 is bolt in for the Rev2 (same axles etc)??
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#12089
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 133
Geoff are your shifter bearings like this ?


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You can get these here. http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=387847&page=1&pp=30

I have the brass shifter bushes installed for the past five years and was contemplating buying some of the above, but Tim has made me think twice now.
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#12092
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 133
On closer inspection on the Kelsport site, they are not the same. I don't think spherical bearing shifter bushes have been produced for the MR2 since Phoenix Power made them.
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#12093
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 313
Yes they look like a better fit. The Kelsport ones do take a few washers to get them to fit right.
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#12094
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 133
Like you said Geoff, you have the brass type to re-use if the new type play up.
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#12095
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Jesus Quandry, KC+1 for your pains! Dedication though! Good man.

EDIT: Best of luck getting the time you need to finish of the engine works Marty! Keep the faith! Im looking forward to seeing this, it will be the only other 2.2 Stroker I will have ever seen besides Quandry's.
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#12096
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 327
I have the Kelsport one fitted on mine, but when I seen Geoff pictures I thought that it was a much tidier looking setup altogether.

The Kelsport ones are fine, nice gear change feel. Don't like the multiple washers, would perfer a single spacer rather than a heap of washers. After what Tim said I shall be keeping a watch on these and think I would go with the brass next time.
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#12111
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the kelsport ones are mainly a scateboard bearing, the other ones are full spherical beaings being produced by Chico Race Works, because i'm his sole european agent i'll be stocking these also and will be much stronger than the scateboard bearing type.

So i'll offer both i think.

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#12116
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Well let us know when you have a group buy

sorry for the thread jack Marty
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#12119
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If anyone has the dimensions of the brass ones, I could knock them out - as i have a CNC and a lathe.
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#12120
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i do buts
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#12130
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mark239 wrote:
If anyone has the dimensions of the brass ones, I could knock them out - as i have a CNC and a lathe.

Hey Mark

If I gave you the dimensions of the Power FC, could you make up a simple bracket for it. At the mo, mine is held on with strong velcro.

If it would be expensive, not to worry. Its just that this is something that would prob sell and not just a one off.
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#12142
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
I need a bracket for my PFC too. Would be great if it not just fit around the PFC but also bolted to original fix points from stock ECU.

Thats two already....(need a price first though)
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#12150
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give us an idea of the dimensions, and where the hole centres need to be, and diameter of the holes and I'll see how handy they would be to knock up.
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#12178
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Marty, im really sorry, we have gone totally off your topic.

End of this discussion here....

Mark, ill measure up and PM you, cheers.
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#12179
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No problem. I'm as guilty of doing the same thing.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 133
I have the engine block back on the stand and have been examining it. I notice that it is now positive deck height ie. the pistons are above the deck by about 0.14mm. I am hoping that this should not be a problem when I install my HKS 1mm head gasket. I have installed the oil pump pulley and will soon have the water pump and Morroso sump on.


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#13505
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don't worry i checked this against a stock 1.2mm metal gen 3 head gasket and it was perfectly fine

way ahead of you mate

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#13506
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Hmmm tasty sump, are you going to be track daying this beasty Marty. Looks like plenty of baffling in all directions.
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#13511
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I wouldn't mind trying a track day, but I wouldn't like to see the MR2 get beat up. Time trials would be better.
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#13538
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Sounds promising Marty!! keep us posted on this beast of a build.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 133
I have received my second intercooler which will go on the other air intake duct. I will have to move the fuel fill pipe as it is in the way, I'm hoping that I can still use the original fuel cap posistion. I have also been testing the Sard intercooler water spray that will be cooling both intercoolers. I am impressed with the fine mist that it sprays which should help to keep temperatures down. It can be triggered by a number of things, for instance the throttle posistion sensor. I am thinking about installing a iat sensor just after both the intercoolers output. When it reaches a certain temperature it triggers the Sard water sprayer. There will also be a Spal puller fan on each intercooler.

I was also at Maplins to get some wire and relays to upgrade the wiring to the fuel pumps (two Walbros intank) and also upgrade the wiring for the headlights. The wiring to the fuel pumps has been known to drop voltage (not to get confused; this has nothing to do with the variable speed of the pump. That is something else which Toyota designed) because it is on the thin side. The same could be said for the head and fog lights.
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#14047
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Sounds interesting Marty. Twin intercoolers is not something you see very often. Will be good to see how this turns out.
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#14063
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this twin intercooler thing has been done before buddy, but it doesn't work well unfortunatly it causes alot of flow reversal issues and turbulances.

will also depend on what ic's your using as i estimate a genuine greddy will work better than 2 of the ebay type ones going from a back to back comparison i did last year. very poor results from the ebay ones i have to say

Hope this helps before you waste to much money on it

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#14660
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A quick update; the Moroso sump needs to be modified , the ARP main studs for the engine girdle are in the way. Nothing that a bit of welding won't sort out . The fuel tank has just been removed and tommorrow I should be installing the 2nd Walbro fuel pump with fittings and uprated wiring .
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Marty J wrote:
I should be installing the 2nd Walbro fuel pump with fittings and uprated wiring .


Oh, I love the sound of twin pumps in the morning, you know a cars good when the whine of the fuel pumps starts and build the excitement before you give the key the final twist.

Get the right fuel hose for going in the tank, seen some stuff melt when introduced to fuel, not what you want to see hapening on your build. I cna't remember what type it was or what type we replaced it with. I would get some of the hose and submerge it in some good go go juice for a day or two then check it for degradation. Not meaning to scare you, just seen it before with "performance petrol hose".
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There is a "kit" that came with the fuel pump that contains some hose for in the tank. You are correct about using the right hose for in the fuel tank. I'm hoping that they don't make too much noise. I have a fuel pump insulator that goes around one of them, which should help reduce noise and vibrations.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 4 Months ago Karma: 133
OK, I need to buy a slightly longer fuel hose for in the tank. SAE 30R10 hose which means that it is suitable for being submerged in fuel. The hole where the pump goes in is ever so slightly too small to fit two Walbro pumps in. I will either hammer or cut the lip to make room. I was thinking about coating the tank in underseal to dampen the sound of the pumps. Does anybody have a better idea about soundproofing the pumps ?
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Get some dynamat perhaps that will help if you mount it above the fuel tank and over the hole if you cut around the pipe and wires. Also put it anywhere the tank may be rubbing off the tunnel.

Dynamat

Never used it myself, but worth looking into, only thing is you don't want it to thick as it will be harder to get the tanks to sit in properly. Hope it helps.
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Good idea for above the tank. There are already oem pads on the tank to stop rubbing. I think I will do the Dynamat mod and use underseal, the paint on the tank is peeling and there is some surface rust. I used to think that the tanks were aluminium to keep the weight down, untill I saw the rust.
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