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#15054
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 148
Whoa, didn't know they were steel! That would be a great way to lose weight, if you could get an aluminium one made up.

How you getting on overall Marty?

When will you be firing it up for the first time?
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 133
I want to buy a few other things for the MR2 before I install the engine. I am trying to make it as easy as possible on myself to do things while the engine is out of the car. I'm a bit tied up financially at the moment, so it's going slower than I had anticipated. It's better to wait and do it properly than rush in and half do the job. There are plenty of other jobs that I can still do on the car for now.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 148
Well fair to play to ya mate. I wish I had your patience. You are right anyway, if you rushed it, imagine the amount of things that would pop up afterwards that you forgot to do, that you would then have to go back and do. I'm thinking specifically of wiring and stuff, routed everywhere. Coming at it the way you are gives you time to think of every single thing you want to do and the time to do it right and NEATLY. Good on ya, hope it keeps ticking along anyway.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 133
A slightly boring topic, but very important; In-tank fuel hose.

Now, untill recently I was none the wiser about in-tank fuel hoses. So I decided to read up about the subject on the web. It has come to my attention that there are probably a lot of modified cars running the wrong type of hose in their fuel tanks. Because the hose is in the fuel tank it should be designed to withstand being immersed in fuel. This means having a protective coating on the outside of the hose as well as on the inside. I have read that some suppliers of fuel pumps have included the wrong type of hose with the pumps. The wrong hose used is usually fuel injection hose that is designed to carry the fuel from the tank to injectors. When this hose is immersed in fuel, over a period of time the outside of the hose can start to swell or disintegrate which can cause all sorts of problems.

I was surprised that my local motor factor in Buncrana had never heard of this. The correct type of hose should have a SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) 30R10 specification. I am not sure if this specification is used in Europe or that there is some other European equivalent. Which means that it is suitable for use in fuel tanks. I have spent a few days looking for manufacturers of this type of hose and was amazed at the small amount of manufacturers that produce it. I was also shocked to find that it is quite expensive. The cheapest I could find it was €11.35 per foot for Gates 27093 not including shipping at Liquid Iron Industries in the USA.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 148
Not boring at all Marty, quite the revelation in fact. Very interesting stuff. Hope that helps a few people before doing anything. For example, I have a new Walbro fuel pump to be fitted. Now I know to check the fuel hose first.

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Marty J wrote:
[quote]A slightly boring topic, but very important; In-tank fuel hose. [quote]

This is exactly the sort of thing for we need in this section +1KC!
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 327
Fair play to you Marty, nice one for posting up the details of the proper hose types, should save people considerable expense.

If the wrong hose was used it could have throw up al load of problems and many of them might not have been cheap.

KC for the research work
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 133
No problem, this is exactly why we have an MR2 site to share information, swap ideas and make new friends
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 133
Today I received some hose from Liquid Iron Industries in the USA. Unfortunately it is not the Gates hose that I had ordered. I have emailed them to let them know about the situation and am waiting for a reply. If you are considering installing a Gates SAE 30r10 hose I would recommend that you order from somewhere else or wait for an update here.
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Bummer, hope they sort you out Marty!
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I must be jinxed when it comes to buying stuff from America
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 133
I received a reply and a refund on excess postage charged. I will be using the Eaton hose.


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Here's what Tim had to say.

Martin,

I no longer sell Gates hose as it is way too expensive for our anpplication. The website is in the middle of being updated to reflect this change. In the meantime I had the pricing changed to reflect the Eaton hose. This Eaton hose conforms to the same specifications as the Gates hose but it is significantly cheaper. Eaton claims that it exceeds SAE 30R10 and it is safe for submersible applications. I have had no issues with it yet.

I was supposed to refund you the excess shipping cost and simply forgot. I shipped a similar package to Germany just before you contacted me and it was over $30 so I assumed it would be similar. I issued you a refund for the $16.55 just now.


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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 148
Seems fair enough, hope it does what it says on the tin!

Lovin the mini disco balls dude! You fitting those to the interior light dome?
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 133
OK so you like my balls dude So does my wife I would have thought you would have gone for the MR2 mug.


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Brilliant man, I missed that! VG
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#17356
Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 133
I dropped the Moroso sump off at the local engineering firm to have a couple of aluminium extension plates to be tig welded on. This gives the two end girdle studs the room they need. I should have it back this Wednesday. I will install the two Walbro fuel pumps with the Eaton pick-up hose tomorrow.
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Good stuff Marty, is there much left on the list of things to do at this stage.
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I will be doing a wire-tuck soon. I have already pulled the wires from the boot and engine back into the cabin, to be re-routed. I have a few other ideas as well
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 7 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 133
I finally got my crank scraper installed today. It certainly wasn't a straight forward drop in job like I had imagined when purchasing the thing. There was a lot of grinding and hacking to make it fit. To be fair on the maker I didn't specify that I was doing a stroker with a girdle. To allow the scraper to fit with the girdle I had to machine down the girdle spacers minus the thickness of the scraper because they would be sitting too high otherwise. Scraper and spacers both use the main bearing cap studs for attachment.

I am doing a wire tuck and got a bit carried away. I have almost finished upgrading one side of the wiring to the fog lights and revision 6 headlights. I don't know if it is completely necessary to do on the MR2 but I read on a few web sites that certain Toyota vehicles wiring was not as good as it could be for the lights. Toyota seemed to have used tonnes of insulating tape and tubing, it took me a while stripping down the wires. I am using relays wired directly to the battery and when I have finished the upgrade, the dipped beam will stay on even when I switch to high beam, which will improve the lighting which would have overloaded the original wires (that are now removed).
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Jesus, sounds like you are going to town on this project. Really thorough Marty, didn't realise that you were that good with the electronics too.

Any idea of time frame to first start? You must be close now. Dying to see this machine, I have a feeling it's going to be pretty epic going by the detail and time you are putting in, not to mentioned the endless list of fancy and custom after market goods. HUGE shame you can't come to Athlone in it.
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Lol I am just going with the flow so to speak. It will be be back on the road, I just don't know when. The only thing I am concerned about now is that it has been a bit "hyped up" on this forum, it would be embarrassing if something was to go wrong .

I have received a very late reply to an email that I sent to Gates UK. They have sent me the name of an Irish supplier and phone number. I have what I need, so have not been in contact with them to ask about the cost of a Gates submersible fuel hose. Gates is at the top when it comes to this particular product, so don't be put off by the high price. Strongline Autoparts in Dublin. (Tel No 01 462 4631)
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Don't worry about the hype Marty, it will just be nice to see all the work you have done! The effort is impressive, the result will be too.
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What's the latest on your car Marty? are you anyway closer to getting the engine back in?
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 6 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 133
What with the snow, Christmas and flu (in that order) I have not done anything with it.

But it is time to knuckle down and get it sorted. So I should be starting back on the whole car really soon.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 6 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 133
I ordered some more parts. A water pump with thermostat housing (I didn't like the look of mine, it was slightly pitted on the gasket mating surfaces). A timing belt tensioner bearing and a timing belt pulley.
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Re:Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 6 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 133
I received the parts today. The water pump is a Blue Print brand ADT39138. So back to the garage to continue the build.
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Re: Forged 2.2 build to begin soon. 6 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 133
So today I went searching for my Piper timing disc with no luck, but I did find this in the loft. I have posted it here incase somebody else needs to do their timing too, they can print it off. I should have most of the engine assembled by the end of this week. The dyno meeting in Armagh has spurred me on to get this project back on the road.


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Good on you MartyJ, throw up some pictures of the progress, might spur me on a bit aswell.
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cool!

It did the same for me too I'm prepping now for doing my suspension bushes (with writeup )
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